Voodoo Lab

Thanks for this! However, I did set the Herberts manually... We had a gig last Sunday and even though it happened twice during rehearsals it all worked just fine in the evening. Still, I'd like to know for sure haha. I'll keep on trying and will report later. Thanks!

that's exactly what happens, yes. sometimes only one amp switches to the desired preset und the second one only reacts when I hit the button a second time.

They are on different midi-channels, because they shouldn't always stay on the same channels... Well, I will check the cables! Thanks for this, I'll report soon.

Soooo, my rig is now basically complete and it looks a bit different now, though. It's all really great and basically quite simple. Works like this:

Guitar (via Sennheiser wireless) goes into the GCX Audio Switcher, where the signal splits into both amps.

- Diezel Herbert 1 (Left) --> this one is connected to the Korg Tuner via "Tuner out"
- Diezel Herbert 2 (Right)

All FX are patched through the GCX and work as follows:

- Fulltone OCD for Diezel 1
- Bogner Burnley for Diezel 2
- Strymon Timeline (stereo, switchable loop)
- Strymon Big Sky (stereo, switchable loop)

This means that the Strymons both go through the switchable loops of both Diezels, thus stereo, and are therefore "switchable". I can just activate or deactivate the loops to control them.

The whole midi stuff runs through a "midisolutions quadra thru" to send the midi-signal to all devices simultaneously, without going through all the "thrus" of every single chain-element first. HOWEVER I do have some troubles here: Sometimes, when I hit a preset on the ground control, only one amp switches to the setting and the other one stays on the one before and only changes when I hit it a second time. Does anyone know that problem? It's annoying as h*ll. Maybe the quadra thru just isn't good enough? It does feel somewhat cheap, but yeah... Any recommendations here?

sooooooo me again!!
happy 2015 everyone (yeah, kinda late but still...)

so, I've been trying out many ways and methods but somehow I can't really make sense of how my rig could function the way I really want it to. So far I have been controlling both Herberts in sync, so I actually tell Herbie 1 to go to channel 1 and it tells Herbie 2 to do the same thing via a quad-thru box. Also, the Timeline is connected to this box. But things are not working out very much. I do have this feeling that I got something fundamentally wrong the way I set it up.

I need to give each device an own "channel", right? How do I then make sure that each device does ONLY listen to this channel? If I change a setting on one of the Herberts then the other Herbert AND the Timeline also change settings - but it seems to be pretty random to me. Simply said, whenever I change something on one of the three devices, weird things happen on the other two...

Can anyone help me out here? I read and re-read the manuals but somehow I can't solve my problem...

The setting I now aim for is much simpler than originally thought. I only work with the two Herberts (in exact sync, so they need to do the same things at the same time) and the Timeline. And I'd like to save presets for each song with different delays and delay-tempi (bpm). I know this is possible, but I struggle. A lot.

Thanks for your precious time...!!

Cheers and all

EDIT: Got it!! Finally.....! Everything's working the way I want it to. Thanks for your support!

Hey wow! Thanks for that!! I can't wait to try this out... I'll let you know what happens

Awesome!!!

oookay, so, things kinda start working here...

I had not chosen names/channels for the devices yet, thank you JohnClark!!

Now I am able to program presets, it's great! Though I think I have not quite figured out how precisely to communicate with the Timeline. I can set different delays, but I do not quite understand what is happening when I change channels on the Ground Control... but I might figure it out. I'm on it.

At this point another question just came up: can I actually put the Timeline's TAP function on the Ground Control, too?

Thanks for your precious help!!

Now, as expected, I did run into a problem while trying to program the whole thing. So far I have worked with the ProStage X07 to control the amp. Now, with the Strymon Timeline involved, I can't figure out how to make this possible with the Ground Control Pro and Audio Switcher.

What I want:

A preset per bank for each song, to simply switch from bank to bank as we go on in our set.

For instance, Bank 1 is the first song of the set. I'll need the clean channel with a specific delay for the verses, the crunch channel dry for the chorus, the crunch channel with another delay (not the same as in verse) for another part of the song and the lead channel with yet another delay.

As I have it now, the GCX is connected to Herbert 1, then via MIDI Thru to Herbert 2, MIDI Thru to Strymon Timeline.

What I can't do:

How do I store a specific setting? With the ProStage X07 I simply set the amps the way I needed them and then I pushed "store" on the amps twice. Done. Now with the Ground Control, weird things are happening When I store a setting I keep losing other settings. I have NO control hehe... But I think I am messing things up. So, I guess I need a little help for the steps I should take... I don't know if I made myself clear. I hope someone understands

Thanks everyone!!


PS: Before I post any pictures: I am currently re-arranging the FX section as I changed and added some pedals and need to fix this first.

hey all!

sorry for getting back to you this late - i've been recording an album in Germany, only got back now. back to life.

so, i'll post pictures of the actual wireing etc. asap! As it is now I split the signal with the GCX Audio Switcher using the "Guitar in" and its two outputs. in order to avoid the (normally) resulting hum/ground loop I have a DI box in front of one of the Herberts.

ok, i'll be back with pictures - and questions! because programming seems to cause several problem.

thanks and cheers!!

...and it's ready to rumble! So far, so good. Thanks guys!
I'll be back with more questions soon, though. Programming ahead