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 Post subject: Replacing a NS-2, with a Decimator.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 2:56 pm 
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Just wondering the best way to add a Decimator rack unit to my setup, any help would be great!!!!


Signal chain is as follows

Guitar- Zack wylde wah.
GCX audio switcher
Fryette pitbull head
Rocktron intellifex
Rocktron intellipitch.

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Rocktron intellifex online
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 Post subject: Re: Replacing a NS-2, with a Decimator.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:59 am 
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I'd use cables. Cables are always the best way to add any piece of gear to an existing rig ;)

OK OK...
How are you currently using the NS-2 in all this?
Which model of the Decimator do you have?

The gate will likely go right after the preamp section in the FX Loop.
If you have something like the Decimator G-String, then you would also route the guitar thru its guitar in and out first before hitting the wah.
If you have rack mount Decimator then you would likely route channel 1 after the front end pedals and channel two in the FX Loop.

Let us know how it goes!


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 Post subject: Re: Replacing a NS-2, with a Decimator.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:49 pm 
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Hah ha nice......

I had the NS-2 in loop 1.
Guitar
Wah
GCX input
GCX feed into loop1
Loop 1 boss ns-2
Loop 1 out into front of amp
Efx loop of amp in to loop 2
Loop 2 intellifex
Lol 3 intellipitch
Loop 3 out to efx loop return of amp.

I just didn't know how the Decimator rack should be wired up, in aloop for each channel, or straight in from the feed through, and the same on 2 nd channel , in a loop, or after the last Rocktron unit before efx return on the amp?

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Fryette fat bottom 4x12 Eminence
Zakk Wylde wah
GCX audio switcher
RJM mini amp gizmo
GCX ground control pro
Rocktron intellifex online
Rocktron intellipitch
ISP Decimator


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 Post subject: Re: Replacing a NS-2, with a Decimator.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:26 pm 
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Heh, I somehow missed that you said it was the rack version in your first post. oops.

I figure you should just try it out with channel 1 before the input of the amp and channel 2 in the effects loop. It isn't very likely that the processors are going to make much noise, but feel free to experiment with the routing. I'd for sure keep anything doing delay or reverb after the gate.

Running either gate section thru a GCX Loop would allow you to bypass the gate if you wanted to, so that too is really up to you and how you use the noise gate. It certainly would be no problem to route each channel thru its own GCX Loop.

I hope that helps!


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 Post subject: Re: Replacing a NS-2, with a Decimator.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 7:47 am 
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I recently added some pedals to the front end of my setup ( ts-10, vht drive, and a wampler triple wreck),
I also added a pedal power2,and a Rocktron power station, thanks to it,and the power cables I ordered from the website I got rid of all the bulky wall wart power cables.

Could you please diagram how I should route the audio path for my rig?

Guitar
Wah
Front of GCX audio switcher
Ts-10
VHT drive
Wampler triple wreck
Fryette pitbull ultra lead head
ISP Decimator pro rack G
Rocktron intellifex online
Rocktron intellipitch

Should I be using series or parallel fx loop?

I wanted to set the decimator to not chop off my clean sound, I just didn't know how I should go about this.
After upgrading all my power, and audio this really made my head hurt trying to fig all this out ha ha...Any suggestions? Thank you.

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Fryette fat bottom 4x12 slant greenbacks
Fryette fat bottom 4x12 Eminence
Zakk Wylde wah
GCX audio switcher
RJM mini amp gizmo
GCX ground control pro
Rocktron intellifex online
Rocktron intellipitch
ISP Decimator


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 Post subject: Re: Replacing a NS-2, with a Decimator.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:10 pm 
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Could I please get some help John Clark?

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Fryette fat bottom 4x12 slant greenbacks
Fryette fat bottom 4x12 Eminence
Zakk Wylde wah
GCX audio switcher
RJM mini amp gizmo
GCX ground control pro
Rocktron intellifex online
Rocktron intellipitch
ISP Decimator


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 Post subject: Re: Replacing a NS-2, with a Decimator.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:13 pm 
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Oops, sorry I missed your previous post!

I suppose the only question I have would be about how you use the processors. Delays and Reverbs can be great in parallel, but a Harmonizer could really go either way depending on how you use it. On the Harmonized and Pitch Shift sounds you use would you want the "Dry" signal to be present?


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 Post subject: Re: Replacing a NS-2, with a Decimator.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:55 am 
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I am not really sure about that, the harmonies will be used alot less than the reverb, delay, chorus.
I seen a couple different ways to route the fx processers, and thought you would have more insight into what works,and what don't.
The Rocktron stuff is amazing sound wise (I'm) very transparent.

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Fryette fat bottom 4x12 slant greenbacks
Fryette fat bottom 4x12 Eminence
Zakk Wylde wah
GCX audio switcher
RJM mini amp gizmo
GCX ground control pro
Rocktron intellifex online
Rocktron intellipitch
ISP Decimator


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 Post subject: Re: Replacing a NS-2, with a Decimator.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:19 pm 
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Here is where I would start with this pile of gear ;)
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I show your three pedals as #1, #2, and #3 since you could probably run them in any order and get cool sounds. I suggest running the Fryette Loop in Series as it will likely be the most useful that way, and you can actually set the effect mix for Chorus, Delay, and Reverb in the Intellifex anyway.

Try it out and let us know what you think!


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